The 40%-of-Rent Rule โ Richard's SF Pitch Anchor
TL;DR
For every Seller Finance deal (Tier A + Tier B), the monthly payment to the seller = 40% of expected gross rent. This is the verbatim formula Richard uses on live calls โ it skips amortization-table math and anchors the conversation to rent reality.
Verbatim source (live calls)
"10% over list, 10% down, 40% of of rent in monthly payments." โ [c2hNH6u7D0k @ 2:27:52]
"I'll give you 80,000 on seller finance terms. So 80,000, 10% down, 40% of whatever it rents out for in monthly payments, 7-year term." โ [c2hNH6u7D0k @ 1:11:34]
This is the single highest-value insight from validating the playbooks against 10 hours of Richard's actual live calls. Missing from every source document until 2026-05-16.
Where this fits in the timeline: You say this number on Day 0 (the first call). See pipeline-timeline.html for what happens next.
Who pays whom
The 40% monthly payment is from the END BUYER (the investor Tim assigns the contract to) to the SELLER. Tim never makes those payments โ he assigns the contract at closing and walks with the assignment fee.
SELLER โโโโโโโโโโโบ TIM (contracted, then assigns) โโโบ END BUYER (investor)
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โ Monthly payment = 40% of rent ร balloon years โ
โ Plus: 10-12% down at close โ
โ Plus: balloon payoff at year 5 (Tier A) or 7 (Tier B)โ
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The economics
For a property with $1,500/mo rent, $80K offer, 10% down ($8K), 7-year balloon, 40% of rent:
| Party | Cash in | Cash out | Result |
|---|---|---|---|
| Seller | $8K down + $600/mo ร 84mo + balloon at month 84 | โ | $80K total (= $8K down + $50,400 monthly + $21,600 balloon) |
| Tim | $80K contract โ assigns for $X fee | $0 ongoing | Exits at close with assignment fee |
| End buyer | $8K down + assignment fee + closing | $600/mo seller + ~$300/mo PITI + ~$300/mo reserves | Cash-flows ~$300/mo on $1,500 rent (~20% net CF) |
The rent split โ why 40%
Gross rent: $1,500 100%
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โ Payment to seller: $600 40% โ the 40% rule
โ End-buyer PITI (T+I): $300 20% โ property tax + insurance
โ Reserves: $300 20% โ CapEx 5% + Mgmt 5% + Vacancy 10%
โ End-buyer cash flow: $300 20% โ what's left = the deal's appeal
20% net cash flow is the design target. It gives the end-buyer investor a real return AND leaves Tim a margin to charge a meaningful assignment fee on the side.
How to USE it on a call
Agent picks up.
You: "Hi [name] โ I was told that you were open to some seller financing.
Is that the case?"
Agent: "We're open to creative โ what are you thinking?"
You: "Beautiful. Here's what I do: [asking + 10%] purchase price, 10% down,
and I pay your seller 40% of whatever it rents out for in monthly
payments, 7-year term."
(For the $80K example: "I'd give you 80,000 on seller-finance terms.
8 grand down. 600 a month for 7 years. Balloon at year 7 for 21,600.")
Agent: "How does that math work for your seller?"
You: "Total they walk with over 7 years is exactly the asking price, just
spread out. They get cash now, monthly income, and a final payoff
when I refinance them out."
What this REPLACES
The original playbooks derived monthly payment from a 30-year amortization at 0% interest: - $72K loan รท 360 months = $200/mo (P&I only)
The amortization-based number is structurally correct under traditional accounting, but Richard never uses it on live calls. Why:
- It's too low to feel meaningful to the seller โ "$200/mo on a $80K sale" sounds like nothing
- It can't be computed in your head while talking โ you'd need a calculator
- It anchors to a 30-year term the seller intuitively rejects ("I'll be dead before this pays off")
The 40%-of-rent number: 1. Anchors to the rent the seller already understands ("I'd get 40% of what this rents for โ almost as good as renting it myself") 2. Is mental math โ multiply rent ร 0.4 3. With a 5-7yr balloon, the seller sees their full payoff inside their planning horizon
When this DOESN'T apply
| Tier | 40% rule applies? | Why |
|---|---|---|
| Tier A (MFH SF) | โ Yes โ primary | Same SF structure |
| Tier B (Cheap SFH SF) | โ Yes โ verbatim verified | Detroit/Cleveland SFHs |
| MT (Mortgage Takeover) | โ No | You ASSUME existing P&I; no new monthly to create |
| HY (Hybrid: MT + SF carry-back) | โ Partial | Carry-back portion only โ see hybrid playbook |
| FF (Fix & Flip) | โ No | Cash purchase, no monthly |
| C (Cash) | โ No | Cash purchase, no monthly |
On the briefing card
Every Tier A and Tier B card now shows the 40%-rule pitch line in the Creative Outcome section, with a rent-split visual:
๐ฌ Richard's pitch (40% of rent rule)
$80,000 ยท 10% down ($8,000) ยท $600/mo to seller ยท 7yr balloon ($21,600 residual)
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Seller $600 T+I $300 Reserves $300 Buyer CF $300
Rent $1,500/mo split.
You read the number off the card, say it to the agent. Don't think โ just say.
Sanity checks before deploying
Use the amortization check (the existing creative_terms line) as a verification baseline. If the 40%-rule monthly looks WAY off from amortization (e.g., 10x bigger), the rent estimate is probably wrong. Cross-check Zillow Rent Zestimate before committing to a number on the call.
If rent estimate is missing or absurd (e.g., $1/mo or $50K/mo), the rule produces garbage โ fall back to amortization-derived monthly.
Source
- Live-call verbatim: c2hNH6u7D0k @ 1:11:34, @ 2:27:52
- Validation report: live-call-validation.html
- Tier playbooks where the rule applies: Tier A ยท Tier B